Showing posts with label Jesus Christ. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Jesus Christ. Show all posts

8/15/26

Pure desire - pilgrims progress into the kingdom of heaven

Enjoyed breakfast with my friend who has been inspired by Pure Desire. We talked about freedom we have in Christ to follow a new way of living that fills us rather than destroys our well being and distracts us from our purpose. The devil comes to kill steal and destroy but Jesus comes to give life to the full. We talked about Young Washington and Brink of War. Wholesome entertainment that edifies rather than terrifies. Stories that you want to talk about rather than shame and guilt you hope nobody finds out about. I'm looking forward to leading Rooted in Faith Bible study with my church, helping men come out of Babylon into the kingdom of heaven. 

Reminds me of this part of Pilgrims Progress - interpreter bringing light where there are shadows - giving light to the rest of our journey (Passion vs Patience,  Hopelessness vs Hope). Look don't just see, listen don't just hear... Eyes that see, ears that hear and heart that understands

Gift from my mom for graduation decades after I graduated

We talked about the Thyatira — the fourth of the seven churches, addressed in Revelation 2:18–29. I was thinking about Thyatira, biblical love and sinful tolerance within the church just a month ago in Colorado. 

The letter actually opens with praise: Christ commends their love, faith, service, and endurance, noting their latter works exceed the first. The charge is that they "tolerate that woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess," teaching believers to commit porneia and eat food sacrificed to idols (2:20). She's given time to repent and refuses, and the judgment language is severe — a sickbed for her, tribulation for her followers, death for "her children."

  • "Jezebel" invokes memory of the Phoenician queen of 1 Kings 16–21 who imported Baal worship into Israel. The pairing of sexual immorality with idol-food is the same combination charged against Pergamum's Balaam faction.
  • To those who don't hold her teaching — those who haven't known "the deep things of Satan" — the only burden is to hold fast, with the promise of authority over the nations and the morning star.
  • Consecration is our obedience in Sanctification, thanking God for this Sabbath day reading Psalm 92

Biblical material on this is spread across law, prophecy, wisdom, gospel, and epistle, and the vocabulary itself is worth noticing first. The Hebrew zanah means to "whore" or be unfaithful, and gets used for both literal sexual acts and covenant betrayal. The Greek porneia — the New Testament's umbrella term, usually rendered "sexual immorality" — is left conspicuously undefined, which most scholars take to mean the writers assumed their readers knew the Levitical catalog behind it.

The legal core. Leviticus 18 and 20 give the fullest list: incest, adultery, bestiality, sex during menstruation, male same-sex intercourse, child sacrifice to Molech folded into the same chapter. The framing is striking — these are "the practices of Egypt and Canaan," and the land itself is said to vomit out its inhabitants over them. Deuteronomy 22 adds case law with a heavy emphasis on protecting women from false accusation and coerced sex. Adultery makes the Decalogue; so does coveting a neighbor's wife, which already moves the concern inward.

The prophetic metaphor. This is arguably the dominant thread and the one people miss. Hosea marries a promiscuous woman as a living parable; Jeremiah 2–3, Ezekiel 16 and 23 (shockingly graphic by any standard), and Malachi 2 all cast Israel's idolatry as adultery. The logic runs both directions — sexual unfaithfulness is treated as an icon of covenant unfaithfulness, and idolatry is described in explicitly sexual terms. Revelation closes the canon with the same image: Babylon as the great whore, her porneia bound up with imperial violence and luxury trade.

Jesus radicalizes and interiorizes. Matthew 5:27–30 relocates adultery to the lustful look, with deliberately absurd hyperbole about eyes and hands. His divorce sayings appeal past Mosaic concession back to Genesis 2:24 — "one flesh" as the created norm. Notably, his hardest words fall on men exploiting legal privilege, while his encounters with women accused of sexual sin (John 8, Luke 7, the Samaritan woman) are consistently disarming rather than condemnatory.

Paul gives the most developed argument, in 1 Corinthians 5–7. His case isn't primarily "the rules say so" — it's ontological: sex joins persons, even with a prostitute one becomes "one flesh," so porneia is uniquely a sin against one's own body, which is a temple of the Spirit and no longer self-owned. 1 Thessalonians 4 adds a communal-justice angle (don't wrong a brother in this matter), and the vice lists in Galatians 5, Ephesians 5, and Colossians 3 keep sexual sin in company with greed — which Paul twice calls idolatry.

Themes that recur across all of it:

  • Sex is treated as covenantal and body-joining, never as a private, self-contained transaction — the "one flesh" language does most of the theological work.
  • Sexual ethics function as a boundary marker, distinguishing Israel and then the church from surrounding cultures. The distinctiveness is part of the point.
  • The body is not autonomous — it belongs to God, and within marriage, mutually to the spouse (1 Cor 7 is unusually reciprocal for its era).
  • Interiority deepens over time, from act to desire.
  • There's a persistent exploitation and justice dimension: protection of the vulnerable, and Ezekiel 16 famously names Sodom's sin as pride and neglect of the poor.
  • Sex itself is affirmed as good. Genesis blesses it before any fall, the Song of Songs celebrates erotic love with no reproductive justification offered, and Paul assumes marriage is normal. The prohibitions aren't framed as anti-body.
  • Restoration is always available. Hosea buys his wife back; David is confronted and not discarded; Paul tells the Corinthians "such were some of you — but you were washed."
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8/8/26

Encounter and Testimony: ordinary, low-status people trusted with news they then can't keep to themselves.

I’m excited that BSF will launch a new Equip series this year on BSFOnline.org called Finding Hope.

BSF has also released a companion booklet, Finding the Hope of the Gospel. Rooted in Scripture, this clear and simple guide explores who Jesus is, what He has done for us, and how we can respond to Him. Our theme this year is Romans 1:16 ("For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believes"). 

As I was thinking about this verse I was reminded of how God's word changes people and what they do with their testimony after an encounter with God, hope you enjoy this little research. I've underlined and italicized the parts that we can also see in ourselves.  

The man from whom the demons had gone out begged to go with him, but Jesus sent him away, saying, “Return home and tell how much God has done for you.” So the man went away and told all over town how much Jesus had done for him. - Luke 8:38-39

Luke 8:26–39 tells of the man from Gerasa possessed by many demons, living naked among the tombs, whom Jesus frees with a word. When the man begs to go with Jesus, Jesus refuses him and gives a different instruction instead: "Go back home, and tell everyone how much God has done for you" (Luke 8:39, NLT). The man obeys, and Luke adds that he "went all through the town proclaiming the great things Jesus had done for him."

That verse establishes a three-beat pattern that recurs throughout Scripture: a person meets God in a way that changes them, God (or the moment itself) redirects them toward their own community rather than away from ordinary life, and the person becomes a witness — often an unlikely or socially marginal one — whose testimony precedes and provokes belief in others. What follows traces that pattern across the biblical narrative, grouped roughly by era.

Old Testament Encounters

Hagar (Genesis 16:7–13) meets the angel of the Lord in the wilderness after fleeing Sarai's harshness. She responds by naming God "El Roi" — "the God who sees me" — which functions as her testimony: a permanent, spoken acknowledgment of what happened to her, later reinforced by the naming of the well Beer-lahai-roi.

Jacob (Genesis 28:10–17; 32:22–32) has two God-encounters that bracket his life: the ladder vision at Bethel and the night wrestling at Peniel. Both leave him renamed or reoriented — Bethel becomes a memorial pillar and vow, and Peniel gives him the name Israel, which he carries and which becomes the name of a nation. His testimony is less a spoken sermon than a life reshaped into a monument others could see.

Moses (Exodus 3:1–4:17) meets God at the burning bush and is the clearest Old Testament parallel to the Luke 8:39 pattern: an encounter followed by an explicit commission to go and tell — first Israel, then Pharaoh. Moses's initial reluctance ("who am I?") mirrors the very human hesitancy that shows up again and again in these accounts before the telling actually happens.

Gideon (Judges 6:11–24) encounters the angel of the Lord at the winepress, builds an altar he names "The Lord Is Peace," and the encounter goes public almost immediately when he tears down his father's altar to Baal in front of the town.

Samuel (1 Samuel 3:1–18) is a child when God calls him at Shiloh. His first act of testimony is difficult and small-scale — telling Eli, his mentor, the hard word he's been given — before it grows into a lifelong prophetic voice recognized by all Israel.

Elijah (1 Kings 19:9–18) meets God not in the fire or the wind but in "a gentle whisper" at Horeb. Unlike most figures here, his response is initially private — renewed resolve rather than public proclamation — until he returns to anoint successors and confront kings, carrying the encounter into continued ministry.

Isaiah (Isaiah 6:1–8) sees the Lord on his throne in the temple and responds, "Here I am. Send me." His entire prophetic book is the extended telling: decades of proclaiming what he saw and heard to a nation that largely didn't want to listen.

Jonah (Jonah 1–3) is the most reluctant witness in the Old Testament. His encounter with God — including the ordeal in the fish — eventually produces the exact thing Luke 8:39 describes: he goes and tells Nineveh, and the city believes, even though Jonah resents the outcome.

Daniel (Daniel 7–12) receives visions he doesn't always understand himself, yet is repeatedly told to write them down and, in some cases, seal them for a future audience — testimony deliberately aimed at people not yet born.

Encounters in the Gospels

The shepherds (Luke 2:8–20) receive an angelic announcement at night and go, "spreading the word," so that "all who heard the shepherds' story were astonished." They are the first evangelists of the Gospel narrative and a near-exact structural preview of the Gerasene man forty verses of Luke earlier — ordinary, low-status people trusted with news they then can't keep to themselves.

The man freed at Gerasa (Luke 8:26–39) is the text under study. What makes him distinct is that Jesus actively sends him home rather than letting him follow — testimony among his own people, not celebrity discipleship, is the assignment.

The Samaritan woman at the well (John 4:1–30, 39–42) has an extended personal conversation with Jesus that exposes her history and reveals who he is. She leaves her water jar and goes into the town: "Come and see." John records that "many Samaritans from the village believed in Jesus because of her testimony."

The man born blind (John 9) is healed and then interrogated repeatedly by neighbors and religious authorities. Unlike others on this list, his testimony is forced into a hostile, escalating cross-examination — "I don't know if he is a sinner… all I know is I was blind, and now I can see" — making him a model of a witness who holds to a simple factual claim under pressure rather than theological argument.

The Samaritan leper among the ten healed (Luke 17:11–19) is singled out by Luke for turning back "shouting, 'Praise God!'" and throwing himself at Jesus's feet in gratitude — public, loud testimony in contrast to the nine who simply went on their way healed and silent.

Zacchaeus (Luke 19:1–10) has a shorter, more social encounter — Jesus comes to his house — but the result is a public financial restitution announced to the crowd, a visible testimony rather than a purely verbal one.

Resurrection Witnesses

Mary Magdalene (John 20:11–18) is the first person to see the risen Jesus and is given a direct commission — "Go tell my brothers" — making her, structurally, an apostle to the apostles. Her report, "I have seen the Lord," is the shortest and most direct testimony statement in the resurrection narratives.

The women at the tomb (Matthew 28:1–10; Luke 24:1–11) run from the tomb "with fear and great joy" to tell the disciples, even though the disciples initially dismiss the report as "nonsense" — an early example of testimony being true but not immediately believed.

The two disciples on the Emmaus road (Luke 24:13–35) recognize Jesus only in the breaking of bread, and "got up at once and returned to Jerusalem," unable to wait until morning to tell the Eleven what had happened.

Encounters in Acts

Peter has two major encounters worth noting: Pentecost (Acts 2), after which he preaches to thousands, and the rooftop vision in Joppa (Acts 10:9–23), which he later recounts to the Jerusalem church (Acts 11) to justify preaching to Gentiles — testimony used specifically to defend a controversial theological shift.

Cornelius (Acts 10:1–8, 30–33) receives his own angelic visit instructing him to send for Peter, and he gathers his household and friends to hear Peter's message — his encounter's "telling" takes the form of convening an audience rather than personally preaching.

Saul/Paul (Acts 9:1–19; recounted in Acts 22 and 26) is the most extensively repeated conversion testimony in the New Testament. Paul narrates the Damascus road encounter himself, twice, in his own defense speeches, making him the clearest case of someone whose entire subsequent public life becomes the telling.

The Ethiopian eunuch (Acts 8:26–39) has a brief roadside encounter with Philip that ends in baptism, and though Scripture doesn't record him preaching, it notes he "went on his way rejoicing" — testimony implied by transformed demeanor rather than recorded speech, tradition holding that he carried the faith into Ethiopia.

The Philippian jailer (Acts 16:25–34) encounters God through an earthquake and Paul and Silas's response to it, asks "what must I do to be saved," and is baptized along with his household that same night — encounter and testimony compressed into a single night.

The Pattern Across These Accounts

Read together, these figures show that biblical testimony rarely starts with the powerful or the credentialed: a delivered demoniac, a Samaritan woman with a reputation, a formerly blind beggar, shepherds, a tax collector, women at a tomb whose report was initially disbelieved. The most consistent detail — and the one Luke 8:39 states most plainly — is that the first audience is usually the witness's own household or town, not a distant mission field. The telling is local before it is global, and it is frequently unwelcome or disbelieved at first, which does not stop it from being the thing these encounters produce.

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8/6/26

The Joy of Failure and reason for Bible Study

 Soul are you weary and troubled? Bless the Lord o my soul, worship his holy name. Hymns remind us that we are blessed to remember the Lord and worship our way through difficult times.

Today, I am learning to find joy even in failure. WD-40 earned its name through iteration: 39 unsuccessful attempts before the 40th formula worked.

While tri-bible.ai involves extensive information and requirements analysis, its ultimate purpose remains clear: to make Scripture understandable, doctrinally faithful, and reproducible in every language.

That mission became tangible while I was translating a Bible study into German. I discovered that Psalm 139:14 can read as “terribly and wonderfully made” in contemporary German. It was a bug, but also an important lesson in why careful, context-aware translation matters. The Lord helps me to consider this Pure Joy (James 1:2-4). 

In Bible study we can enjoy learning but the main reason should always be to "get to know God" as John Lennox says in this interview. He recounts an important lesson from his mentor, Professor David Gooding, who challenged him to move beyond studying the Bible simply to prepare talks, teach classes, or fulfill obligations. Instead, he explains that if the Bible is truly the Word of God, the ultimate and most worthwhile purpose for engaging with it is to allow God to reveal Himself to the reader through it.

The distinction between viewing scripture as a vehicle for God's revelation versus dismissing it as "fantasy" largely comes down to the reader's attitude toward metaphors and the nature of language.

  • Seeing Fantasy: Professor Lennox explains that many young people today struggle to understand metaphorical language. Because they lack training in the grammar of their own language, they often treat symbols and figures of speech in books like Revelation as literal descriptions. When these descriptions seem impossible or surreal (like a sword coming out of a mouth), they conclude the text is merely "fanciful" or "meaningless."
  • Allowing Revelation: Conversely, approaching scripture to "get to know God" involves recognizing that metaphors stand for realities. Lennox notes that just as saying "my heart is broken" refers to a real experience rather than a literal damaged organ, biblical metaphors point toward deep, non-literal spiritual truths.

Ultimately, Lennox argues that reading the Bible as God's Word requires maturity and judgment. It isn't about ignoring intellect, but about accepting that the text uses imaginative language to communicate truths that transcend a purely literal, materialistic interpretation.

I read a book on the Psalms that shows God's wisdom in the Hebrew literary form of poetry that doesn't use rhyme but uses metaphor. "Bless is the person, who meditates on God's word - he is like a tree planted by stream. Producing fruit in every season... they prosper because the Lord watches over the way of the righteous."

Lord help me read the Bible with eyes that see, ears that hear and heart that understands. In Jesus name, amen. Give me confidence that you are watching over the way of righteousness and help me to meditate on your way. Keep me near your heart and guide me into the way of everlasting. 

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Jesus is the same, but people tend toward reinterpretation with existing religious frameworks

Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever Hebrews 13:8

I create a new compare feature for deity-and-sonship-of-christ from various religious perspectives

Here's why it matters.

Across these language-specific Comparative Theology sections, a clear set of recurring themes emerges. Each language identifies the dominant worldview that could cause readers to reinterpret the biblical doctrine of Christ's deity and divine Sonship through familiar religious categories rather than allowing Scripture to define the doctrine on its own. 

The common pattern is not outright rejection of Jesus. Rather, it is reinterpretation. Every language identifies a local theological framework that can make biblical language sound familiar while fundamentally changing its meaning. The translation challenge is therefore conceptual fidelity, not simply lexical accuracy.

Comparative Theology is not primarily comparing religions. It is identifying the specific conceptual "gravity wells" within each culture that could pull readers away from the biblical presentation of Christ. Those gravity wells differ by language, but the objective remains the same: preserve the Bible's claim that Jesus Christ is the unique, eternal Son of God, fully divine and fully human, whose incarnation, death, resurrection, and future return are singular events in God's plan of redemption.


LanguageDominant comparisonPrimary misunderstanding risk
ArabicDruze, AlawiteJesus divided into categories or incarnation language redefined
BengaliVaishnava HinduismJesus understood as another avatar of Vishnu
CzechHussite historyLittle Christological conflict from local history
HindiPuranic HinduismJesus absorbed into avatar theology
SomaliIslamic worldview (described elsewhere in the library)Jesus honored as prophet but not divine Son

Several higher-level themes emerge.

1. Existing religious frameworks reinterpret new information

Every culture already has categories for understanding divine beings. Instead of learning a new biblical category, readers naturally map Jesus onto one they already know.

Examples include:

  • Avatar (Hinduism)
  • Prophet (Islam)
  • Divine manifestation
  • Inspired teacher
  • Divine incarnation of another person

This is a universal cognitive pattern.

Translation implication

A translator cannot assume that "Son of God" or "God became flesh" will automatically communicate the biblical meaning.

2. Superficial similarities hide profound theological differences

Nearly every comparison notes that something appears similar.

For example:

Arabic

  • incarnation language
  • divine figure
  • heavenly messenger

Hindu

  • God entering the world
  • divine appearance
  • future deliverer

These similarities create false confidence.

The Comparative Theology repeatedly warns:

Similar vocabulary does not imply similar doctrine.

3. Uniqueness of Christ is consistently at risk

Nearly every collision reduces Jesus from unique to one among many.

Instead of

the eternal Son who became incarnate once for all

the competing framework suggests

  • another avatar
  • another prophet
  • another manifestation
  • another divine representative

The biblical claim of uniqueness is therefore weakened.

4. Christ's return is often reinterpreted

This is especially strong in Bengali and Hindi.

Instead of

the visible return of the same historical resurrected Jesus

the expectation becomes

  • another avatar
  • Kalki
  • another divine descent

The doctrine of the Second Coming changes even if similar words are used.

5. Personhood of Christ becomes distorted

Different traditions modify Christ's identity differently.

Arabic examples

  • distinction between Jesus and "the Christ"
  • incarnation transferred to another person

Hindu examples

  • one incarnation among many

Islamic examples

  • honored prophet but not divine Son

Each changes who Jesus actually is.

6. Historical context matters

Czech stands out.

Instead of identifying a major theological collision, it notes:

  • Jan Hus
  • Hussite reform

These movements challenged

  • church authority
  • sacramental practice
  • ecclesiology

They did not reject Christ's deity.

This illustrates an important principle:

Comparative Theology should identify the actual risks for that culture rather than forcing identical concerns into every language.

Common translation principles

Across all languages, several principles emerge.

Avoid using familiar religious terminology if it imports another theology.

For example

  • avatar
  • manifestation
  • emanation
  • prophet
  • divine messenger

unless Scripture itself requires the wording and explanatory notes remove ambiguity.


Preserve uniqueness.

Translation should consistently communicate that Jesus is

  • the eternal Son
  • uniquely incarnate
  • fully God
  • fully man
  • crucified
  • risen
  • returning

not one example within a larger category.


Preserve historical identity.

The same Jesus who

  • was born,
  • lived,
  • died,
  • rose,

is the one who returns.

This prevents reinterpretation into cyclical or recurring divine appearances.


Translate concepts, not merely words.

Literal translation alone is insufficient if readers automatically interpret terms through local religious systems.


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8/3/26

Righteousness, self-control, and the coming judgment

 Acts 24:25 says:

"As Paul reasoned about righteousness, self-control, and the coming judgment, Felix became afraid and said, 'Go away for the present. When I get an opportunity I will summon you.'" (ESV)

This verse provides a concise summary of Paul's gospel message to a Roman governor. These three themes appear repeatedly throughout his letters.

1. Righteousness
Paul consistently teaches that true righteousness comes from God through faith in Christ and results in a transformed life.

Supporting passages:

  • Romans 1:16-17, "The righteous shall live by faith."
  • Romans 3:21-26, God's righteousness revealed through Jesus Christ.
  • Romans 5:1, "Since we have been justified by faith..."
  • Romans 6:13, Present yourselves as instruments of righteousness.
  • Romans 10:3-4, Christ is the end of the law for righteousness.
  • 2 Corinthians 5:21, We become the righteousness of God in Christ.
  • Philippians 3:8-9, A righteousness that comes through faith, not the Law.
  • Titus 3:5-7, Saved not because of righteous works but by God's mercy.

Key idea:
Paul never separates being declared righteous before God from growing in righteous living.

2. Self-control
Self-control is evidence of the Holy Spirit's work and essential for holy living.

Supporting passages:

  • Romans 6:11-14, Do not let sin reign in your body.
  • Romans 8:12-14, Live by the Spirit, not the flesh.
  • 1 Corinthians 6:12, "I will not be mastered by anything."
  • 1 Corinthians 9:24-27, Paul disciplines his body like an athlete.
  • Galatians 5:22-23, Self-control is fruit of the Spirit.
  • Ephesians 4:22-24, Put off the old self and put on the new.
  • Colossians 3:5-17, Put to death earthly passions and clothe yourselves with Christ.
  • Titus 2:11-14, Grace trains us to live self-controlled, upright, and godly lives.

Key idea:
Self-control is not mere willpower. It is the Spirit empowering believers to submit every area of life to Christ.

3. The Coming Judgment
Paul consistently reminds believers and unbelievers that everyone will stand before Christ.

Supporting passages:

  • Romans 2:5-11, God will judge each person according to truth.
  • Romans 14:10-12, We will all stand before God's judgment seat.
  • 2 Corinthians 5:10-11, Everyone must appear before the judgment seat of Christ.
  • 2 Thessalonians 1:5-10, Christ returns in judgment and glory.
  • 2 Timothy 4:1, Christ will judge the living and the dead.

Key idea:
Future judgment gives urgency to repentance, faith, and holy living.

The Gospel Pattern in Paul's Ministry

Acts 24:25 reflects Paul's consistent approach:

  1. God's righteousness reveals our need.
  2. Self-control exposes our inability to overcome sin apart from Christ.
  3. Coming judgment reveals our accountability before God.
  4. Christ provides forgiveness, righteousness, and new life through faith.

This same progression appears throughout Romans:

  • Romans 1 to 3: Humanity's guilt before a righteous God.
  • Romans 3 to 5: Justification by faith.
  • Romans 6 to 8: Sanctification through the Spirit.
  • Romans 12 to 15: Practical righteous living.
  • Romans 14: Accountability before God's judgment.

Related themes throughout Paul's letters

  • Repentance: Romans 2:4; 2 Corinthians 7:9-10.
  • Faith in Christ: Romans 3:28; Galatians 2:16.
  • New creation: 2 Corinthians 5:17.
  • Holiness: 1 Thessalonians 4:3-8.
  • Living worthy of the gospel: Ephesians 4:1; Philippians 1:27.
  • Hope of Christ's return: Titus 2:13; 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18.

Acts 24:25 is therefore not an isolated sermon outline. It is a concise summary of Paul's theology: God calls people to receive His righteousness through Christ, live Spirit-empowered lives marked by self-control, and prepare for the day when everyone will give an account before the righteous Judge.

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7/30/26

Cross-cultural catechesis explaining the Gospel is the Power of God

Learning about Hmong people and remembering a friend who's dad was a Shaman. The phrase The gospel is the power of God is a loaded term as are the elements of the "gospel"

Cross-cultural catechesis works best when you don't just correct the wrong concept but replace it with a better native category — so the Hmong believer isn't just told "that's wrong," but is handed Scripture that reshapes the concept from the inside. Here's how to approach each point, paired with a Bible-study path they can run themselves (not just receive from you).

1. Gospel power ≠ stronger magic

The confusion: In animist framing, "power" is a single spectrum — shamans, spirits, and now Jesus are all competing for the strongest dab (spirit) power. If you say "the gospel is powerful," it can land as "our spirit is stronger than your spirit," which keeps them inside the same fear-based power economy instead of leaving it.

Reframe: Don't compare power levels — change what kind of thing power is. God's power in Romans 1:16 is defined immediately by what follows: the righteousness of God revealed through faith, and it's demonstrated definitively in 1 Corinthians 1:18–25 and 1 Corinthians 15 — power shown paradoxically through weakness and death, then vindicated by resurrection. It's not "our spirit beats your spirit"; it's that death itself, the thing every spirit (good or evil) is powerless against, has been defeated.

Study path for them: Read Colossians 2:13–15 (Christ "disarmed the powers and authorities") alongside Romans 1:16 and 1 Corinthians 1:18. Ask: What does Paul say the power actually accomplished — a display of strength, or a specific victory (over sin, death, and hostile powers)? Have them notice the object is always tied to the cross/resurrection, never presented alone.

2. Grace (txiaj ntsim) vs. earned/fated blessing (koob hmoov)

The confusion: Koob hmoov is blessing/fortune that must be maintained — through ritual correctness, ancestor appeasement, ongoing merit. If grace is taught loosely, converts will instinctively slot it into that same maintenance logic: "I must keep doing right to keep God's favor," which reproduces the anxiety of shamanic obligation under a Christian label.

Reframe: Justification is a verdict, not a supply that runs out. Use courtroom language explicitly, since Hmong culture already has strong categories for judgment, debt, and honor.

Study path: Romans 5:1–2 ("having been justified" — past tense, completed act) and Romans 8:1 ("no condemnation") paired with Ephesians 2:8–9. Ask them to look specifically for verb tense — is it something God keeps doing if they perform well, or something already done? Then have them contrast with Titus 3:5 ("not because of righteous things we had done"). A good discussion question: If koob hmoov must be renewed by right ritual action, what would it mean if grace never needed renewing — only receiving once?

3. Election/sovereignty vs. hmoov (impersonal fate)

The confusion: Hmoov is impersonal — you're born with good or bad fortune, and it's arbitrary, unloving, unappealable. If you teach predestination/election with that word or framework sitting unchallenged underneath, "God chose you" sounds like "you got lucky/unlucky fate," not "you are personally loved."

Reframe: Every election passage in the NT is wrapped in relational, affective language — it's never fate-as-mechanism, it's love-as-motive.

Study path: Ephesians 1:4–5 ("in love he predestined us") — have them locate the reason given for God's choice (love, adoption as sons — a family/relational category, which lands hard in Hmong clan culture) rather than a bare mechanism. Pair with John 6:37 ("whoever comes to me I will never drive away") and Romans 8:38–39 for assurance. Good question for them to sit with: Does hmoov ever explain itself, or promise anything about how it will treat you? Does God's choosing do that here?

4. Sanctification vs. ritual cleansing

The confusion: Hmong purity language centers on contamination by spirits and remedy through ritual (cleansing rites, exorcism-adjacent practices for spirit affliction). If "holiness" or "purification" is taught using that same vocabulary uncritically, converts may hear ongoing sin as a spirit-contamination problem needing a Christian ritual fix, rather than understanding it as the Spirit progressively reshaping character and desire.

Reframe: Sanctification is transformation of a person from the inside (mind, desires, will), accomplished by the indwelling Spirit over time — not episodic removal of external contamination.

Study path: Romans 12:1–2 (transformation by "renewing of your mind") and Galatians 5:16–25 (fruit of the Spirit — a growth metaphor, not a cleansing-event metaphor) and 2 Corinthians 3:18 ("being transformed... from one degree of glory to another"). Ask: Is this described as something done to you once by a ritual specialist, or as a process you participate in as the Spirit lives in you?

5. Baptism as costly public rupture, not private symbol

The confusion: This is the one where under-teaching does real harm. For a clan-embedded Hmong believer, baptism isn't a private symbolic act — the clan and family will read it as a declaration that the person no longer participates in ancestor veneration, which can mean real exclusion from funeral rites, inheritance, clan standing, and family relationships. Presenting it as "just an outward sign" leaves them unprepared for what it will actually cost them relationally.

Reframe: Don't soften this — teach it as costly discipleship, using the passages where Jesus himself names family cost explicitly, so the weight comes from Scripture, not just from you.

Study path: Luke 14:26–33 (count the cost, explicitly framed against family loyalty) and Matthew 10:34–39 (Jesus naming household division directly) alongside Romans 6:3–4 (baptism as death and burial — matching the seriousness of what they're facing) and Acts 2:41 alongside the immediate cost implied in Acts 4–5's community. Rather than isolating baptism as a comfortable "next step," walk it together with these passages so they see Jesus predicted exactly this tension, and can weigh it deliberately rather than being surprised by it later.

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7/22/26

Building Christlike character patient endurance rooted in hope

I enjoy open source Bible tools like openbible.info where they have verses added by regular people on  patience. As I was reading these verse I noticed themes for building Christlike character like self-control under pressure, and hope that is trusting God's timing. Below, that list is sorted into five themes, each with supporting scripture added to round out the trait.

1. Slow to Anger, Quick to Understand

  • Proverbs 15:18 — "A hot-tempered man stirs up strife, but he who is slow to anger quiets contention."
  • Proverbs 14:29 — "Whoever is slow to anger has great understanding, but he who has a hasty temper exalts folly."
  • Ecclesiastes 7:9 — "Be not quick in your spirit to become angry, for anger lodges in the heart of fools."
  • Proverbs 16:32 — "Whoever is slow to anger is better than the mighty, and he who rules his spirit than he who takes a city."
  • James 1:19–20 — "Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger; for the anger of man does not produce the righteousness of God."
  • Proverbs 25:28 — "A man without self-control is like a city broken into and left without walls."
  • Galatians 5:22–23 — "But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law."

2. Patience as Strength, Not Weakness

  • Ecclesiastes 7:8 — "Better is the end of a thing than its beginning, and the patient in spirit is better than the proud in spirit."
  • Hebrews 10:36 — "For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God you may receive what is promised."
  • Romans 15:5 — "May the God of endurance and encouragement grant you to live in such harmony with one another, in accord with Christ Jesus."
  • James 1:2–4 — "Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing."
  • Romans 5:3–4 — "Suffering produces endurance, and endurance produces character, and character produces hope."
  • Galatians 6:9 — "And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up."

3. Waiting on the Lord

  • Isaiah 40:31 — "But they who wait for the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings like eagles; they shall run and not be weary; they shall walk and not faint."
  • Exodus 14:14 — "The Lord will fight for you, and you have only to be silent."
  • Psalm 27:14 — "Wait for the Lord; be strong, and let your heart take courage; wait for the Lord!"
  • Psalm 37:7 — "Be still before the Lord and wait patiently for him; fret not yourself over the one who prospers in his way, over the man who carries out evil devices!"
  • Lamentations 3:25–26 — "The Lord is good to those who wait for him, to the soul who seeks him. It is good that one should wait quietly for the salvation of the Lord."

4. God's Own Patience — the Model and Motive

  • 2 Peter 3:9 — "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance."
  • 1 Timothy 1:16 — "But I received mercy for this reason, that in me, as the foremost, Jesus Christ might display his perfect patience as an example to those who were to believe in him for eternal life."
  • Romans 2:4 — "Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?"
  • Psalm 103:8 — "The Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love."

5. Patience in How We Treat and Teach Others

  • 2 Timothy 4:2 — "Preach the word; be ready in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with complete patience and teaching."
  • 2 Timothy 2:24–25 — "And the Lord's servant must not be quarrelsome but kind to everyone, able to teach, patiently enduring evil, correcting his opponents with gentleness."
  • Colossians 3:12–13 — "Put on then, as God's chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other."
  • 1 Corinthians 13:4 — "Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant or rude."

6. Hope and Trust in God's Plan

  • Jeremiah 29:11 — "For I know the plans I have for you, declares the Lord, plans for welfare and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope."
  • Proverbs 3:5–6 — "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and do not lean on your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will make straight your paths."
  • Romans 8:28 — "And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose."

Pattern across the themes: patience and self-control aren't passive traits they flow from trusting God's timing (waiting on the Lord), remembering His patience toward us (grace received becomes grace extended), and choosing gentleness in how we treat others. The character trait Scripture builds most consistently here is patient endurance rooted in hope.

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7/13/26

Thyatira, biblical love and sinful tolerance within the church

 Fantastic worship service at https://www.flatironschurch.com/west/ yesterday. the message was amazing: Tolerance Isn't Kindness...Love Is Enjoyed meeting Chris Kelly and sharing how they could translate weekly messages into Spanish with tri-bible.ai

Jesus' letter to the church in Thyatira presents one of the clearest biblical distinctions between biblical love and sinful tolerance. The church was commended for its love, faith, service, perseverance, and spiritual growth, yet Christ confronted them because they tolerated false teaching and ongoing sin. The central message is that genuine love never ignores truth. Love seeks a person's highest good, even when repentance is required. Jesus calls His people to reject false doctrine, pursue holiness, and remain faithful until He returns, promising Himself as the "Morning Star" and authority in His coming kingdom.

Key themes with supporting Scripture

ThemePrimary ScriptureSupporting ScripturesKey Lesson
1. Jesus sees both faithfulness and compromiseRevelation 2:19-20Hebrews 4:13, Psalm 139:1-4Jesus praises what is good while confronting what is destructive.
2. Love is not the same as toleranceRevelation 2:20Ephesians 4:15, Proverbs 27:5-6, Galatians 6:1Biblical love tells the truth for another's good.
3. What you tolerate eventually shapes youRevelation 2:20-231 Corinthians 5:6-7, Hebrews 12:15, Judges 2:10-13Small compromises eventually influence an entire community.
4. False teaching slowly distorts truthRevelation 2:20Matthew 7:15, 2 Peter 2:1-3, Acts 20:28-31, 2 Timothy 4:3-4Error usually enters gradually through appealing ideas.
5. Test every idea against Scripture2 Corinthians 10:5Acts 17:11, 1 John 4:1, Isaiah 8:20God's Word, not culture, is the final authority.
6. Sin always costs more than expectedRevelation 2:21-23James 1:14-15, Numbers 32:23, Romans 6:23Sin promises freedom but produces bondage and death.
7. God patiently calls people to repentanceRevelation 2:21Ezekiel 18:23, 2 Peter 3:9, Romans 2:4Judgment follows many opportunities for repentance.
8. Kill sin before it growsGenesis 4:6-7Romans 8:13, Colossians 3:5, Matthew 5:29-30Sin must be confronted early before it masters us.
9. Hold fast until Christ returnsRevelation 2:24-25Hebrews 10:23, Matthew 24:13, James 1:12Perseverance marks genuine faith.
10. Jesus is the Morning StarRevelation 2:28Revelation 22:16, Numbers 24:17, Lamentations 3:22-23, John 8:12Christ Himself is the believer's greatest reward and source of hope.

The Jezebel pattern

The "Jezebel" in Revelation recalls the Old Testament queen who corrupted Israel.

Historical background

  • 1 Kings 16:29-33: Jezebel introduces Baal worship.
  • 1 Kings 18: She opposes God's prophets.
  • 1 Kings 21: She manipulates power to accomplish evil.
  • 2 Kings 9:30-37: God's judgment falls upon her.

In Revelation, "Jezebel" likely represents either a literal false teacher or a symbolic description of someone promoting similar compromise:

  • Blending truth with cultural acceptance.
  • Excusing immorality.
  • Encouraging idolatry.
  • Claiming spiritual authority while opposing God's Word.

Love versus tolerance

The sermon draws an important distinction that Scripture consistently supports.

Biblical tolerance

  • Patient with people.
  • Quick to forgive.
  • Extends mercy.
  • Leaves judgment to God.

Biblical love

  • Speaks truth (Ephesians 4:15).
  • Calls for repentance (Luke 13:3).
  • Restores gently (Galatians 6:1).
  • Protects others from deception (Titus 1:9-11).

Jesus demonstrated perfect love by welcoming sinners while never affirming their sin.

Examples include:

  • John 8:1-11: "Neither do I condemn you... Go, and from now on sin no more."
  • Mark 10:21: Jesus loved the rich young ruler enough to confront his idol.
  • Matthew 23: Jesus strongly rebuked religious hypocrisy out of concern for God's people.

Practical applications

Personally

  • What recurring sin have I normalized?
  • Which voices shape my beliefs more than Scripture?
  • Am I making excuses instead of pursuing repentance?

In the church

  • Are we more concerned with acceptance than holiness?
  • Do we lovingly confront destructive teaching?
  • Are leaders guarding sound doctrine?

In culture

Christians are called to:

  • Love every person because they bear God's image (Genesis 1:27).
  • Show grace and compassion (Colossians 4:5-6).
  • Refuse to redefine what God calls sin (Isaiah 5:20).
  • Hold both truth and love together (John 1:14).

The promises to overcomers

Jesus ends the letter with hope rather than condemnation.

Authority with Christ

  • Revelation 2:26-27
  • Daniel 7:27
  • 2 Timothy 2:12

Believers will reign with Christ in His kingdom.

The Morning Star

  • Revelation 2:28
  • Revelation 22:16

The greatest reward is not merely heaven or authority. It is Christ Himself.

Memorable principles

  • Love without truth becomes sentimentality.
  • Truth without love becomes harshness.
  • Biblical love always seeks another person's eternal good.
  • What we repeatedly tolerate eventually shapes our character.
  • False teaching rarely begins with obvious lies. It usually begins with subtle compromises.
  • God's patience is an invitation to repentance, not permission to continue in sin.
  • The greatest reward for faithfulness is deeper fellowship with Jesus Christ.

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7/9/26

Danger of persistently refusing God's offer of salvation (Hebrews 2:1-4)

 A friend pointed out to me the truths from Hebrews 2:1-4 that was in the new believers bible.

Summary: The danger is not merely committing isolated sins but persistently refusing God's offer of salvation.

The Big Idea

Hebrews 2:1-4 calls every reader to a decisive response:

  • Listen carefully to God's Word.
  • Do not drift into spiritual neglect.
  • Receive the salvation offered through Jesus Christ.
  • Trust the gospel God confirmed through Christ, the apostles, miracles, and the Holy Spirit.
  • Persevere in faith rather than ignoring God's gracious invitation.

The passage presents both God's grace and human responsibility. God has spoken through His Son, provided complete salvation through the cross, confirmed that message with signs and wonders, and continues to call people through the Holy Spirit. The question Hebrews asks every reader is simple: "How shall we escape if we neglect so great a salvation?" (Hebrews 2:3). The implied answer is that there is no greater rescue than the one God has already provided in Christ.

Key Theme: Don't Drift. Respond to God's Salvation.
Primary text: Hebrews 2:1-4

The warning in Hebrews is not primarily against ignorance, but against neglect. Spiritual drift is usually gradual. The writer urges believers to pay close attention to Christ because the salvation He offers is greater than anything that came before.

Supporting Scriptures:

  • Hebrews 3:12-15: Guard your heart against unbelief that slowly pulls you away from God.
  • James 1:22: Be doers of the Word, not merely hearers.
  • John 5:24: Whoever hears Christ and believes has eternal life.
  • Romans 10:9-13: Salvation is received by believing and calling on Christ.

Summary: God has spoken clearly through His Son. The proper response is faith, obedience, and perseverance.


Key Theme: God Desires Everyone to Be Saved

God's heart is consistently revealed as one of mercy and invitation rather than condemnation.

Supporting Scriptures:

  • 2 Peter 3:9: God is patient, not wishing that any should perish.
  • 1 Timothy 2:3-4: God desires all people to be saved.
  • Ezekiel 33:11: God takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked but desires repentance.
  • John 3:16-17: Christ came to save the world, not condemn it.

Summary: God's desire is universal salvation, but His invitation must be personally received.


Key Theme: God's Invitation Requires a Human Response

Salvation is God's work, yet Scripture consistently calls people to respond.

Supporting Scriptures:

  • Matthew 11:28-30: Jesus invites the weary to come.
  • Revelation 22:17: Whoever is thirsty may freely receive the water of life.
  • Acts 2:38: Repent and be baptized.
  • Acts 17:30: God commands all people everywhere to repent.
  • Isaiah 55:6-7: Seek the Lord while He may be found.

Summary: Grace is freely offered, but faith and repentance are genuine responses that God calls every person to make.


Key Theme: Salvation Is Entirely God's Work

People cannot save themselves. Forgiveness, justification, and new life come only through Christ.

Supporting Scriptures:

  • Ephesians 2:8-9: Salvation is by grace through faith, not works.
  • Titus 3:5: God saved us because of His mercy.
  • Romans 3:23-24: We are justified freely through Christ's redemption.
  • John 14:6: Jesus is the only way to the Father.

Summary: Salvation is accomplished by Christ alone and received through faith.


Key Theme: Human Responsibility Is Real

God does not coerce belief. Scripture repeatedly presents people with a genuine choice to accept or reject Him.

Supporting Scriptures:

  • Joshua 24:15: Choose this day whom you will serve.
  • Deuteronomy 30:19-20: Choose life.
  • John 1:11-13: Some rejected Christ, while others received Him.
  • Romans 1:18-21: Humanity is accountable because God has made Himself known.

Summary: God's sovereignty does not eliminate human responsibility. Every person is accountable for how they respond to Christ.


Key Theme: God Confirmed the Gospel Through Signs and Wonders

Hebrews emphasizes that the gospel was not based on human opinion. God authenticated it through miraculous works.

Supporting Scriptures:

  • Mark 16:20: The Lord confirmed the message with accompanying signs.
  • Acts 2:22: Jesus was accredited by miracles, wonders, and signs.
  • Acts 5:12: Many signs and wonders occurred through the apostles.
  • 2 Corinthians 12:12: Apostolic ministry was authenticated by signs and miracles.
  • John 20:30-31: Jesus' signs were recorded so people would believe.

Summary: Miracles did not replace faith, but they confirmed God's revelation concerning Jesus Christ.


Key Theme: Ignoring the Gospel Has Eternal Consequences

Hebrews presents one of the New Testament's strongest warnings against neglecting salvation.

Supporting Scriptures:

  • John 3:18: Whoever does not believe stands condemned already.
  • John 3:36: Whoever rejects the Son remains under God's wrath.
  • Matthew 25:46: Jesus describes eternal life and eternal punishment.
  • 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9: Judgment comes upon those who reject the gospel.
  • Hebrews 10:26-31: Deliberately rejecting God's provision leaves no other sacrifice for sins.
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6/30/26

What has God made known to us?

I was looking at Eph 6:19, the greek word made known

Pray in the Spirit at all times, with every kind of prayer and petition. To this end, stay alert with all perseverance in your prayers for all the saints. Pray also for me, that whenever I open my mouth, words may be given me so that I will boldly make known the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains. Pray that I may proclaim it fearlessly, as I should (Eph 6:18-20)

The Mystery of God's Redemptive Plan — this is by far the dominant subject, especially in Paul's letters. Ephesians alone hits it four times: the mystery of God's will (Eph 1:9), the mystery revealed by revelation (Eph 3:3), the mystery hidden from prior generations (Eph 3:5), and the mystery of the gospel (Eph 6:19). Colossians 1:27 ties it to "Christ in you, the hope of glory," and Romans 16:26 describes the mystery now disclosed to all nations.

God's Own Attributes — His power and wrath (Rom 9:22–23), the riches of His glory (Rom 9:23), His grace (2 Cor 8:1), and His manifold wisdom made known to heavenly rulers through the church (Eph 3:10).

The Father's Name and Character — Jesus declares in John 17:26 that he has made the Father's name known and will continue to do so, connecting to John 15:15 where he says he's disclosed everything from the Father to the disciples.

The Gospel itself — 1 Cor 15:1 and Gal 1:11 use gnōrizō for the gospel's content and origin (not from human beings).

Christ's power and coming — 2 Pet 1:16, explicitly distinguishing eyewitness proclamation from myth.

Mundane/practical uses — Tychicus making Paul's circumstances known (Eph 6:21, Col 4:7, 4:9), requests made known to God (Phil 4:6), and Paul saying he doesn't know which to choose (Phil 1:22).

The theological weight of the word clearly falls on divine disclosure of what was previously hidden — particularly "the mystery," a technical term in Paul for God's plan to unite Jews and Gentiles in Christ, kept secret for ages but now actively being revealed through proclamation.

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6/28/26

Preach quietly and see the world change one relationship at a time


Had a wonderful time this weekend sharing the gospel with my brother and then recreation with Scott and Carolyn at their cabin with Kim. Encouraged to get into OKF and OSI for tri-bible.ai this week and my conversation with Michele to translate her study into Spanish. 

Today our church gave a report of growth in every area. Troy preach this message and I gravitated to Acts 19:9-10, Paul's two years at the hall of Tyrannus in Ephesus. Here are the core themes with cross-references to deepen each one. Great week with Troy Dobbs:  Riot | Acts 19:21-41 - Grace Church

1. Faithful, unglamorous ministry over time
Paul preached "quietly" and "daily" for two years (Acts 19:9-10). No spectacle, just steady proclamation. The fruit came from persistence, not a single dramatic event.

  • 1 Corinthians 3:6-7 (Paul planted, God gave the growth)
  • Colossians 1:28-29 (working hard with the energy God supplies)
  • 2 Timothy 4:2 (be ready in season and out)
  • Galatians 6:9 (don't get tired of doing good)

2. Conversion first, then renounced sin
The order on the slide is the gospel order. People were saved, and changed living followed. Behavior change is the fruit, not the root.

  • 1 Thessalonians 1:9 (turned from idols to serve the living God)
  • 2 Corinthians 5:17 (anyone in Christ is a new creation)
  • Titus 2:11-12 (grace teaches us to turn from godless living)
  • Ephesians 2:8-10 (saved by grace, then created for good works)

3. Power of the Spirit, not human strategy
The slide credits the Spirit for the social impact. Paul's method worked because God's power was behind it.

  • Romans 1:16 (the gospel is the power of God to save)
  • 1 Corinthians 2:4-5 (not clever words but the Spirit's power)
  • Zechariah 4:6 (not by force or strength, but by my Spirit)
  • Acts 1:8 (you will receive power when the Spirit comes)

4. The gospel reshaped the economy as a byproduct
Paul never targeted Artemis or the silver trade. Changed hearts changed spending, and the ripple hit the whole regional economy.

  • Acts 19:18-19 (new believers burned magic books worth a fortune)
  • Acts 19:23-27 (Demetrius admits the gospel is hurting their trade)
  • Acts 17:6 (these men have turned the world upside down)
  • 2 Corinthians 10:4-5 (gospel weapons tear down strongholds)

5. Preach Jesus, not a culture war
The slide's main point. Paul aimed at the person of Christ, not at smashing idols. The idols fell because Jesus rose higher in people's hearts.

  • 1 Corinthians 2:2 (I decided to know nothing except Christ crucified)
  • 2 Corinthians 4:5 (we don't preach ourselves, but Jesus as Lord)
  • Acts 17:16-31 (in Athens Paul reasoned and pointed to God, didn't vandalize altars)
  • Colossians 2:15 (Christ disarmed the spiritual powers)

The throughline for teaching: lift Jesus high, stay faithful over the long haul, and trust the Spirit to handle the culture. 

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6/21/26

Jesus is the central focus point of the good news


I love Andy Stanley’s Path Principle: Direction, not intention, determines destination.

When we evangelize in a post-Christian, postmodern world, we need to understand the people we’re trying to reach. Aaron Pierce describes this as sharing Jesus with the young, deconstructed, and non-religious.

A week ago, I attended the annual Faith at Work gathering with the SALT Christian Network team, along with representatives from more than 90 businesses across the Twin Cities. During the event, Aaron shared teaching from Not Beyond Reach, the book he co-authored with Chip Ingram.

This is a teaching diagram called “The Two-Sided Funnel.” It presents an evangelism and discipleship framework centered on Jesus as the focal point.

At the center is JESUS, representing the core message of the gospel. The funnel shape indicates that many issues exist around a person’s spiritual journey, but not all issues should be addressed at the same time.

Left side of the funnel (before faith in Christ):
The question at the top left asks:

“What is obscuring or distorting their view of Jesus and the Cross?”

This side focuses on barriers that prevent someone from seeing or trusting Jesus clearly. Examples listed are:

  • Lies
  • Idols
  • Misconceptions
  • Hurts
  • Confusion

The idea is that when sharing faith, the immediate goal is not to solve every life issue or theological question. Instead, identify the primary obstacle blocking that person’s understanding of Christ.

Examples:

  • Intellectual skepticism (“How do I know Christianity is true?”)
  • Emotional wounds (“Christians hurt me”)
  • Cultural idols (success, money, autonomy)
  • Religious misunderstandings (“I must earn salvation”)

These issues funnel inward toward Jesus because removing those distortions helps a person see Him more clearly.

Right side of the funnel (after conversion / discipleship):
The bottom right question asks:

“What should be addressed after someone trusts in Jesus and makes Him Lord of their life?”

This side addresses issues that matter, but are typically secondary to salvation. Examples listed:

  • Moral behavior
  • Political ideology
  • Non-salvific theological doctrines

These are important discipleship topics, but the diagram argues they should usually be addressed after someone comes to faith, not as prerequisites.

Examples:

  • Lifestyle habits
  • Political beliefs
  • Denominational debates
  • Secondary doctrines (end times views, spiritual gifts, church governance)

Core principle:

Do not confuse evangelism with full discipleship.

In simple terms:

  • Before faith: Remove barriers to seeing Jesus.
  • At conversion: Bring the person to Jesus and the cross.
  • After faith: Teach obedience, theology, and transformation.

Why this matters:
Many Christians unintentionally create unnecessary barriers by demanding agreement on secondary issues before someone understands the gospel.

The funnel suggests asking two diagnostic questions:

  1. What is keeping this person from trusting Jesus?
  2. What can wait until after they know Him?

This is a prioritization framework. It helps keep the gospel central while avoiding distraction by peripheral issues.

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